Episode 63

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28th Nov 2024

The Odyssey: Books 17-20

In this short episode (recorded in advance as our normal time was Thanksgiving night in America), we go through Books 17-20 of the Odyssey. Most of these chapters, as CB Robertson says, are "one long string of dramatic irony." The real "bro" moment is in the "bum fights" chapter, where the suitors encourage two beggars (one secretly Odysseus) to duke it out for their amusement.

Jack Donovan will be in Tasmania for next week's LIVE show, so CB Robertson will be having one of the other members of the First Men, Mark, on to discuss the final chapters of the Odyssey and the works of Homer in general. Mark is a leader in the First Men and he's involved in CB Robertson's masters level Homer study project, so they should have some deep takes.

⚡Recommended supplementary reading:

The Hero and the Man: Language, Truth, and the Homeric Origins of Western Idealism

by our own C.B. Robertson ‪@caffeineandphilosophy‬ .

https://amzn.to/4086Ol2

You can post your questions in the comments via Instagram or YouTube. We've already started the discussion in our Telegram group, The Greater Mandala. (For access, sign up for our mailing list - here)

⚡THE ADVENTURE COLLECTION⚡

During this episode, we mentioned The Order of Fire's new Adventure collection, featuring a Stay Solar cap and stylish safari shirt designed by Jack Donovan.

Check out the collection here.

🔥 This conversation was streamed live on YouTube at 7PM PST on Nov 28th, 2024. Watch the video here

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🔥C. B. Robertson, author of The Hero and the Man, Holy Nihilism, and Letter to Anwei, shares insights his blog, Caffeine and Philosophy.

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🔥 Jack Donovan is founder of The Order of Fire and PH2T3R. He is the author of The Way of Men, Fire in the Dark, Becoming a Barbarian, and A More Complete Beast.

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PH2T3R The Journal of Solar Culture
Masculine Myth and Solar Philosophy
Exploring masculine myth and philosophy as we develop and promote a new solar culture for men of the future. Inspired by Jack Donovan's book Fire in the Dark. The official podcast of The Order of Fire, a movement for Solar Idealists.

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Jack Donovan

Author of The Way of Men, Becoming a Barbarian, A More Complete Beast, and Fire in the Dark