Episode 65

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12th Dec 2024

Return of the Bros

Some have called Trump's election a "bro-revolution." Football players and MMA fighters doing the Trump dance, Trump going on Rogan and walking into UFC to cheering crowds...

After decades of tolerating a hen-pecked mainstream culture, there's been a palpable vibe shift toward a return of the bro. When I asked ‪@caffeineandphilosophy‬ what we should talk about this week, he thought I should explore what happened to the bros over the past several decades, what changed, and what is happening now. So that's what we're going to do.

When I was writing The Way of Men in 2011, I started by reviewing the conflict between masculinity and feminism and the various attacks on masculinity and "bro" culture at that time. I decided to pull that section out of the final edit of the book, but I published it as a free e-book titled "No Man's Land" in 2012. You can read it for context on my website.

No Man's Land - by ‪@JackDonovan‬

https://www.jack-donovan.com/sowilo/2...


I'll also be watching ‪@millerman‬ 's video on the bro-revolution before the show, so we may refer to it.


I'm Witnessing America's BRO-REVOLUTION and It's Shocking!

 • I'm Witnessing America's BRO-REVOLUTI...  


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⚡THE ADVENTURE COLLECTION⚡

During this episode, we mentioned The Order of Fire's new Adventure collection, featuring a Stay Solar cap and stylish safari shirt designed by Jack Donovan.

Check out the collection here.


🔥 This conversation was streamed live on YouTube at 7PM PST on Dec 12th, 2024. Watch the video here


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🔥C. B. Robertson, author of The Hero and the Man, Holy Nihilism, and Letter to Anwei, shares insights his blog, Caffeine and Philosophy.

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Connect with C. B. Robertson-

Instagram: @caffeineandphilosophy


🔥 Jack Donovan is founder of The Order of Fire and PH2T3R. He is the author of The Way of Men, Fire in the Dark, Becoming a Barbarian, and A More Complete Beast.

Learn more about his work at jack-donovan.com

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Instagram: @starttheworld

Twitter: @mr_jackdonovan


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About the Podcast

PH2T3R The Journal of Solar Culture
Masculine Myth and Solar Philosophy
Exploring masculine myth and philosophy as we develop and promote a new solar culture for men of the future. Inspired by Jack Donovan's book Fire in the Dark. The official podcast of The Order of Fire, a movement for Solar Idealists.

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Jack Donovan

Author of The Way of Men, Becoming a Barbarian, A More Complete Beast, and Fire in the Dark